The Blue dot is as near as I can get to the deepest part of the seat (the saddle seat saddle was slightly tipped in the picture). The Red dot on it is where the irons would attach, if I had them on it. The green line is from the front of the tree/panel to the deepest part of the seat. It measures, as I said, 10 inches in the Albion, 13 1/2 for the Cutback.

The overall dimensions of these saddles are :

• Albion, from front to back 17 1/2 inches.
• Cutback from front to back, 20 1/2 inches.

Both of these saddles have cut back pommels, BTW .. but the length of the pommel part of the saddle is much longer in the cutback model than the dressage model.

Lee

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I'll start out with two of mine, for the sake of comparison... All four of these saddles actually measure out to be the same size, by tape, and I've used all four on the same horses, either Saddlebreds or Fox Trotters, with a few Walkers and Arabs from time to time. I tried to shoot them all at the same angle, with the stirrups about the same length, but will point out they are sitting on a dead flat saddle rack, not an actual horse.

The "Crump" is a Crump, cut-back, Lane Fox style park saddle, made in England ....the previous owner used it on her TWH.

The "Schonthal" is my [Klonfeld?] Schonthal, Charles de Kunffy model dressage saddle, made in Austria. Now, don't know what the other list members will say, but I know that this is probably the most comfortable saddle I own, and it's almost impossible NOT to sit perfectly blalanced in this saddle ... it makes even decrepit old me look good!

The "Barnsby" is my ancient Barnsby flat saddle, made in England, that I mentioned not long ago on the list. This is the pre-curser of the Lane Fox style park saddle. It was old when I rode it back in the 1950's, but it's the saddle I learned on, and it was on the back of some of top winning 5 gaited Saddlebreds on the West Coast in it's day, and if you want to know the truth, it's still my favorite saddle! I even used it my 17th Summer, to horse pack up in the Sierras, when I was recovering from a major knee operation - couldn't stand going up and down the mountains with stiff western stirrups. Had to use a breast collar and about twenty feet of saddle strings, but I rode it! And never sored a horse .... I'd had this saddle on Saddlebreds, Fox Trotters, Quarter Horses, Morgans, Thoroughbreds, Appys and Quarter horses, and even an old draft mare!

And the "Parianni" is my Parianni, Italian made forward seat jumping saddle ... I had a nicer version of this same model that I used when I showed my MFT in English Pleasure classes at Hunt seat, but I sold it along with one of our horses, and then spent two years trying to find another, the same model.